Out of Control Tour 84
updated 2 Sept 2016 with better audio information
updated June 2021 added various bits including magazine
Five Alive LP -
Touch thin & swirly - Sound 3.5 - 1hr 30mins - 26 tracks
Complete Control
Whilst very clear it is also a bit thin at the top end and their is some distance from the recorder to the sound. On the vocals and bass too there is some mild distortion though all instruments are for the most part very clear, particularly the bass which is unusual.
It contains one of the best sounding versions of Glue Zombie.
Radio Interviews
Interviews Swedish Radio? - 1hr 16min - 5 tracks
various quality but generally decent/excellent
Radio Stockholm - 10min
Recorded at the beginning of January. Broad ranging interview. See down the right hand side for link.
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Sweden 1984
The Swedish radio broadcast the the gig the night after Stockholm ’84 and the producers worked really hard on presenting the new tunes but started up with London Calling. Unfortunately my tape was damaged.
Stockholm 81
The ones I recorded myself when we followed them around the whole fxxxing globe I sent to my parents so they were intact. We recorded two sources.
From what I can recall the SQ was superb but when we pressed our copy of Stockholm ’81 we used my source (It was named “När Djurgår’n fick flytta ut för The Clash” b t w) and Michael, a friend and fellow punter placed his tape recorder in front of the master board.
This alternate source was later used for “Stockholm’s Burning” and it sounds a bit better but this source has this guy who’s talking all the time between the tunes. My source has the idiot who screams “White riot!” behind me when Joe talks. I like mine better but everyone else prefer Michaels…
European State Radio Stations
Greek Radio 85
The Greek state radio recorded this show. (I contacted them a long time ago) but all European state archives are closed for people outside; we can’t buy or hire.
Swedish Radio
When I asked an old Clashist friend and journalist on SR ( Swedish Radio ) what had to be done to get all those shows ( Malmö, Lund, Örebro ’77, Eriksdal ’80, Stockholm and Gothenburgh ’81 and ’84, they have them all - complete with perfect sound!)
I got the answer that if a show is asked for by more than 1000 people they’ll put it on the list for P3 Live, a live show every night at 21.00. (Have a look att www.sr.se and go to P3 Live and see the program and old shows.) Unfortunately it’s only 1 hour and therefore edited.
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Same reviewer as the Stockholm 81 gig, Jan-Olov Andersson, the show start’s of with some words from Joe about the new Clash - We will be as punkier as ever. And the Clash keeps their promise, last night the Clash played with so much heat, energy and passion that it was ages a show like this was played in an arena this big.
The reviewer expectations of the gig was not high as the last time Clash played Stockholm (1981) they were careless, played long raggae improvisations and had a really bad sound. The new guys gets the credit for the vitamin injection the new Clash has. Not many bands can get an audience this big feel like they are on a more intimate venue but The Clash showed that they can along with Springsteen, Bowie and the heavy metal bands.
The new songs gets thumbs up but not everything was perfect at the show, the sound was bad from time to time but overall The Clash showed that they have the energy and feeling for a rock ’n’ roll show when it’s at the best!
"This is Sweden"
Photo courtesy of http://medlem.spray.se/monokrom
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There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.
from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)
from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
... both have lists of people who say they went
& from the newer Concert Database
Also useful: Ultimate Music datbase, All Music, Clash books at DISCOGS
Any articles, interviews, reviews, posters, tour dates from The Out of Control '84 tour around the UK and Europe.
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Eye Magazine 1984 No2 - 1984
translation required
Article (no interview) and photo's from Stockholm 84 gig. Several pages.
Newspaper review Swedish orig.
English translation here
Schlager Magazine
Here's a photosession Schlager did when the Clash played Stockholm Feb 1984 Photos of security, roadies, managers, fans etc but not the record label as the Clash told to them to f*** off!
Rod Magazine No2 - 84
several pages
Swedish music magazine Schlager
Chris Knowles includes this gig
The Essential Clash Bootleg Bible
Vince White describes this gig extensively in his Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash, page 89.
We Are The Clash: Reagan, Thatcher, and the Last Stand of a Band That Mattered
By Mark Andersen, Ralph Heibutzki
Clash City Showdown - Paperback
1 Dec. 2003 - by Chris Knowles
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Joe Strummer Interview Radio Stockholm,
1 January1984
Joe Strummer Interview Ltd Edition picture disk
Interview with Joe Strummer and The Clash in Norway in 1984.
The Clash - Italy 1984 interview
Mister Fantasy - Italian TV - RaiUno
Broadcast 22 March
Joe Strummer of The Clash interviewed backstage pre show Milan Italy 1984. Taken from "Mister Fantasy. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
Clash - 1984 Milan Italy News Show interview
Joe Strummer and The Clash interviewed pre show Milan Italy February 1984. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
The Clash - "Jt. 13th" Interview (France) '84
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Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?
This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.
In the second part of the interview, recorded in the beginning of 1984, Strummer sounds melancholy and exhausted. However, with the departure of Mick Jones from The Clash being old news by this point, Lisa Robinson is able to steer the questioning towards what Strummer makes of performing, success, and his music.
Part 1
00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
01:15 Bitterness
01:56 Success vs. personal problems
02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
11:39 Hoping to be possessed
12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
14:55 Pete Howard on drums
15:07 Recording a new album
15:49 The US Festival
16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response
Part 2
00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
01:57 A feeling of homelessness
02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
07:13 The ideal performing situation
07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
10:48 [A false start]
11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
12:11 Musical influences
12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.
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