The Elizabethan Ballroom/Hall
This gig was arranged by Granada to film both bands live.

Get Out Of Control Tour
Supported by Souisie and the Banshees

updated Dec 2014 - added poster and ticket
update October 2020 - added Getty image
updated 22 January 2022 - added crowd photo

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Original source: So it Goes, broadcast Dec 77 & Dec 78

Video - from svhs Nicam rebroadcast - 10min - 4 tracks

Audio - from SVHS Nicam rebroadcast - Sound 4 -
10min - svhs/1 - 4 tracks

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Often circulated as Elizabthan Suite, it is in fact a full gig which was filmed by and for Granada TV and included Souisie and the Banshees as support.Snippets were screened twice on the So It Goes TV show (Dec 77 and Nov 78) (and repeated again in 1990) and circulate on video and audio.Other than the So It Goes source, no other source exists. It is thought Granada don't know where it is either and that the Dec 78 footage may have come from Tony Wilsons own collection.?
Also see A Riot of Own p31.

Audio

This audio dub from the So it Goes rebroadcast (1990) which was recorded on a SVHS Nicam video.

Video

Many copies of varying quality exist. Copies from the rebroadcast are vastly superior.

Granada TV

This was a specially arranged full gig which was recorded by Granada TV, of which 4 songs have only ever been broadcast on the So it Goes shows. Johnny Green (p31) also mentions the gig for the Granada TV's So it Goes programme.

Granada TV also filmed the support act Soiuxie and the Banshees and a couple of minutes of their footage exists also.

The original broadcast dates were mid December 1977 when the first two songs were broadcast, and a year later, December 1978 when the latter two were shown.

It is suggested that...

"I seem to remember someone telling me years ago, when ch4 held its punk night and broadcast the punk doc that was composed of footage from so it goes, that Granada had taped over all the original footage that they had, and the program was compiled from Tony Wilsons personal video collection of the broadcast programs (This is also mentioned in the doc when a Blondie track is played, the quality is poor due to tape deteriation). All 4 clash track that were originally broadcast in 77 & 78 from Manchester were included in the doc along with the Siouxsie footage from when they were support. "

The full gig may well still exist in their archive, but 'warehouse material' which was broadcast is not catalogued, although it may wel be stored. For further info contact Granada at www.granadatv.co.uk or/and send an email for the attention of Tony Wilson.

The back catalogue address is:

Clip Sales Department,
Siobhan Kelly,
Granada TV,
Quay Street,
Manchester M60 9EA

Granada charge £258 per episode of So It Goes (30 mins) and and there is also a legally binding non duplication/replication agreement. Granada have offered footage for less but with more proviso's. Around £75.

other sources for video

An addendum to this is the footage held by Tyne Tees (Newcastle) of 'The Alright Now' show. The 'Something Else' programme is held by the BBC as well, as well as Melvin Bragg's Rude Boy film feature and BBC Radio 4's Rude Boy feature.

Yorkshire TV, Tyne Tees, London Weekend also have live Clash footage on their back catalogue database.

The Clash live in Manchester, 1977
Dangerous Minds
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06.14.2011

Before he started Factory Records or the Hacienda nightclub, as the host of And So It Goes on Granada Television, the late Tony Wilson was personally responsible for some of the most iconic punk bands getting preserved on film and videotape. The Sex Pistols, Magazine, The Buzzcocks, Patti Smith, Iggy Pop, The Banshees, The Fall, The Jam and many other performers found a TV outlet on And So It Goes that they wouldn’t have had elsewhere.  It ran for two years until a foul-mouthed moment by Iggy (wearing a horse’s tail, I might add) got it canceled.

This And So It Goes footage of The Clash playing at the Elizabethan Ballroom in Manchester on November 15th, 1977 is probably the best footage of the Clash that there is. It’s certainly the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a helluva lot of it. The camera placement is perfect for showing what utter havoc and mayhem the band could cause. You can practically feel the gob in the air that night. According to The Clash: Return of the Last Gang in Town by Marcus Gray (highly recommended, btw) fans queuing up for the show got rowdy and pushed the door in causing quite a bit of damage.

Richard Hell and the Voidoids were not in fact the opening act. The were replaced at the last minute by Siouxsie and the Banshees. Note ticket price!

During “What’s My Name?” Strummer sings “Here we are on TV. What does it mean to me? What does it mean to you? FUCK ALL!”:

"I went to the Manchester Belle Vue gig which was filmed for So It Goes. For years I'd remmbered it as 1978 but was interested to find it was Nov 77. I was a fifteen year old school kid in Manchester and it was the first ever gig I attended - and what a show.

The crowd outside was pretty big. The doors were late opening and eventually the doors (which were glass) - shattered completely  (after a bit of kicking). the whole crowd got in without paying.

For me at my first gig this seemed brilliant.

I remember watching Soiuxie and the Banshees and her getting pissed of with the amount of gobbing going on.

The thing I remember most was that when The Clash came on they started with London's Burning. However, the opening line was changed to "Getting in for nothin' - Getin'in for nothin' " - outstanding!."

This is a Photo of the crowd just as the doors went through

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Janie Jones
Whats My Name
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There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.

from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)

from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
... both have lists of people who say they went

& from the newer Concert Database

Also useful: Ultimate Music datbase, All Music, Clash books at DISCOGS

A collection of articles, interviews, reviews, posters, tour dates from the Get Out of Control Tour. Articles cover the month of October through to New Year 1977.

If you know of any articles or references for this particular gig, anything that is missing, please do let us know.

Mojo March 2003 pg82

The Clash: Clash City Rockers On Tour
Kris Needs,
Zig Zag, December 1977
DERBY KINGS HALL. The thickset geezer with the appearance of a frustrated rugby player – too short to make the scrum but just as tough if they'll only try me out..
text versionPDF of the orginal

Booze, Blood and Noise:
The Violent Roots of Manchester Punk

A blow-by-blow history of the raucous 1970s scene that birthed Joy Division, Morrissey and Buzzcocks...


PDF

The Clash live in Manchester, 1977 | Dangerous Minds.webloc

Before he started Factory Records or the Hacienda nightclub, as the host of And So It Goes on Granada Television, the late Tony Wilson was personally responsible for some of the most iconic punk bands getting preserved on film and videotape. The Sex Pistols, Magazine, The Buzzcocks, Patti Smith, Iggy Pop, The Banshees, The Fall, The Jam and many other performers found a TV outlet on And So It Goes that they wouldn’t have had elsewhere.  It ran for two years until a foul-mouthed moment by Iggy (wearing a horse’s tail, I might add) got it canceled.

This And So It Goes footage of The Clash playing at the Elizabethan Ballroom in Manchester on November 15th, 1977 is probably the best footage of the Clash that there is. It’s certainly the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a helluva lot of it. The camera placement is perfect for showing what utter havoc and mayhem the band could cause. You can practically feel the gob in the air that night. According to The Clash: Return of the Last Gang in Town by Marcus Gray (highly recommended, btw) fans queuing up for the show got rowdy and pushed the door in causing quite a bit of damage.

Richard Hell and the Voidoids were not in fact the opening act. The were replaced at the last minute by Siouxsie and the Banshees. Note ticket price!

A Riot of our Own pg31

Manchester - Nov 15
Elizabethan Ballroom, Belle Vue

Often circulated as Elizabthan Suite, it is in fact a full gig which was filmed by and for Granada TV and included Souisie and the Banshees as support.Snippets were screened twice on the So It Goes TV show (Dec 77 and Nov 78) (and repeated again in 1990) and circulate on video and audio.Other than the So It Goes source, no other source exists. It is thought Granada don't know where it is either and that the Dec 78 footage may have come from Tony Wilsons own collection.?

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