Out of Control Tour '84
updated 12 Feb 2012 - added set list from gig
updated 2 Sept 2016 with better audio information
Audio 1 -
Above average - Sound 3 - 1hr 22mins - ?? gen - 23 tracks
London Calling
A pretty good sound on this recording, the bass espeicailly coming across well. Everything is clearish, though there is a touch of over amplification, distance, but it has a nice wide sound. Link to Satch's
Chris Knowles - The Essential Clash Bootleg Bible includes this gig
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Attached is Joe Strummer's set list from the April 14, 1984 show at Hofstra University. My friends and I stuck around the stage after the show and got a roadie to give us a set list. This is exactly how it was on the stage, taped down inside a plastic sleeve. We got together recently and my buddy Rob Kiernan pulled it out from the attic.
These concerts took place long before Cut the Crap album came out, and the new, post-Mick songs sounded really good live. Hence the bitter disappointment when the album was finally released.
Ed Fingerling Brooklyn, NY
CLASH'S NEW LINEUP DEBUTS AT HOFSTRA [UNIVERSITY]
Newsday, April 8, 1984
The refurbished Clash debuts a new lineup Saturday night in a sold-out show at Hofstra University in Hempstead [New York ... I WAS THERE!!!] Guitarist-vocalist Joe Strummer and charter bassist Paul Simonon are joined by drummer Pete Howard, who played witht the band at the Us Festival last spring, and two new guitarists, Vince White and Nick Sheppard, for a 49-city American tour.
White and Sheppard are replacements for Mick Jones, the guitarist and singer who was asked to leave the Clash by Strummer and Simonon last year. "I would say Mick Jones was an ego casualty more than anything," said Kosmo Vinyl, who operates the Clash's propaganda ministry. "Mick changed. He seemed unenthusiastic about the group. He didn't seem to trust the people he was working with. He said the band can do whatever it wants, provided it's okay with his lawyer. So Joe said, "You can go write songs with your lawyer."
Jones could not be reached for comment. "Mick says he's going to let the music speak for itself," his attorney, Ellioot Hoffman, is quoted as saying recently in Rolling Stone magazine.
Artistic disagreements between Jones and the other members, especially Strummer, had been simmering over the last few years. Initially one of England's most uncompromising punk bands, the Clash had widened its scope to include funk, rap, and other contemporary black music styles.
There was widespread acclaim for these moves, but according to Vinyl, Strummer was beginning to feel uneasy about what they represented. "He felt there was too much fake black music keeping real black music off the radio," Vinyl said. "What's the point of making a record that sounds like it comes out of the South Bronx, since Joe doesn't come from the South Bronx?"
Vinyl cited the Clash song "Overpowered by Funk" as an example: "It's not the greatest piece of funk anyone's ever heard. Why play mediocre funk when you can play great rock and roll?"
But later.............
"Strummer later apologized for lambasting Jones and admitted he was mainly to blame for the break-up of a successful songwriting partnership: 'I stabbed him in the back', was his own honest account of proceedings." [Ah so.]
Wayne Robins
Setlist
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Hi, great site. I attended the first Pier 84 show, and both the Hofstra University and Stony Brook shows. The 2nd Clash were excellent, I was crushed when that Jose Unidos record came out, it was beyond disappointing. Anyway I hope to write some recollections for you of the shows soon, as they were all amazing in their own way. Thanks, Ed Fingerling"
Hofstra Physical Education Center
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There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.
from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)
from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
... both have lists of people who say they went
& from the newer Concert Database
Also useful: Ultimate Music datbase, All Music, Clash books at DISCOGS
A collection of interviews, features, articles and tour information from April to August 1984.
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Clash is a smash - Chronicle
Presure Drop - 5 Oct 2014
The Clash at Hofstra University
And then the lights went out and a human surge pushed us forward past the barricade. In the crush, I got separated from my friends and ended up in the third row as the curtain drew back and Joe Strummer jumped off the drum kit sporting a white three-piece suit and orange Mohawk, pounding out the opening chords to “London Calling.” It was euphoria. I was seeing the Clash from the third row - are you kidding?
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Revolution Rock - 23 February 2018
The Clash at Hofstra University in New York
Photos by Eddie Malluk.
When worlds collide — Sinatra fans, Clash fans share the street in 1984
By Chris Foran of the Journal Sentinel
Milwaukee-Wisconsin Jounal 15 Oct 2015
On a spring night in Milwaukee, the pop-music equivalents of matter and antimatter met — without explosion or incident.
On May 14, 1984, Frank Sinatra, the 69-year-old Chairman of the Board, was making a rare Milwaukee concert appearance before 10,728 at the Arena (now UW-Milwaukee Panther Arena). Next door, the British punk legends the Clash, were making a rare stop in town, too, playing before 3,625 fans at the Auditorium (now the Milwaukee Theatre).
Checkout Vince White's Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash
We Are The Clash: Reagan, Thatcher, and the Last Stand of a Band That Mattered
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The Clash - Toronto Bus Interview April 1984
Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?
This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.
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00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
01:15 Bitterness
01:56 Success vs. personal problems
02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
11:39 Hoping to be possessed
12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
14:55 Pete Howard on drums
15:07 Recording a new album
15:49 The US Festival
16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response
Part 2
00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
01:57 A feeling of homelessness
02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
07:13 The ideal performing situation
07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
10:48 [A false start]
11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
12:11 Musical influences
12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.
Joe Strummer Interview Ltd Edition picture disk
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