Out of Control Tour 84
Joe Strummer lost his father two days after the second Milan date (28th).
updated 8 Feb 2008
updated 25 Dec 2008 - added support info
updated 4 Jan 2009 - sorted out recent (poor) tapes and quality
updated 2 Sept 2016 with better audio information
Audio 1 -
Sound 3.5 - 1hr 30mins - 3gen - 26 tracks
first tape of the 27th circulated (by BMC actually) - the best version easily - full complete - clear treble and bass
Three Card Trick
Audio 2 - Come Back LP
Sound 3 - 43mins - 3gen - 13 tracks
Three Card Trick
Audio 3 - master
Sound 3.5 - 1hr 29mins - master - 25 tracks
much poorer than v1.0 missing Bored with USA,
Kosmo Intro/London Calling all track 1 - master for Come Back LP
Three Card Trick
Audio 4 -
Sound 3.0 - 1hr 26mins - alt-master - 26 tracks
no intro - edits into early London Calling much poorer than v1.0 but slightly better than v2.0. misses Know Your Rights - tape turnover repeats SISOSIG
Three Card Trick
The full concert from a 3rd gen source. It has a goodish mix, clarity and a nice width of sound. It suffers that outdoor sound but apart from that is very good.
It is much better then the boot LP Come Back which is edited to a re-ordered 13 tracks which was hacked up so as to contain the then 6 unreleased Cut the Crap songs on one side and the remainder on the back side. Link to Satch's
TV Interviews
The Clash - Italy 1984 interview
Mister Fantasy - Italian TV - RaiUno - Broadcast 23 March
Joe Strummer of The Clash interviewed backstage pre show Milan Italy 1984. Taken from "Mister Fantasy and below being interviewed pre show Milan Italy February 1984. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
Clash - 1984 Milan Italy News Show interview
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Top left Clash ticket courtesy Dave Ridley
And you know something? I got it now, 22 years later...
I was at that show Feb 27, 1984, Milan.... Well I finally discover what Joe is ranting presenting this song!
Is talking about Comiso! Comiso (speaking Còmiso, not Comìzo as Joe's ranting) is a little town in Sicily where in the early 80's was installed a USA militar base with Cruise missiles! There was a lot of struggle and clashes around this installation during those years.
Evair
The gig was held in a big sport hall that do not exist anymore. I was only at the first concert. The band was fast and tight but quite monotonous. The acustic was horrible and at that time Joe wasn’t even trying to have any interaction with the crowd. I really appreciated Guns of Brixton with paul’s harp. The new songs looked under rehearsed by then. Luca Lanini
The Clash gig in Milan 27 feb 1984. I was the drummer of the supporting band, called 'NOT MOVING'. We played about 30 minutes and met Paul and Joe before the gig. I've some picture of our gig but no one of the Clash. Antonio Bacciocchi.
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There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.
from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)
from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
... both have lists of people who say they went
& from the newer Concert Database
Also useful: Ultimate Music datbase, All Music, Clash books at DISCOGS
Any articles, interviews, reviews, posters, tour dates from The Out of Control '84 tour around the UK and Europe.
If you know of any articles or references for this particular gig, anything that is missing, please do let us know.
L'Unita 21 February 1984
No English translation from L'Unita
Rock rebel in Milan with the Clash
La Stampa - 26 February 1984
Issue 48 page 23
La Stampa 29 February 1984
English translation go to La Stampa archives
La Stampa 15 March 1984
La Stampa - 5th March 1984
La Stampa original articles can be found here
Google's English translations from the scans can be found here
The support band Not Moving give there taken on supporting The Clash in Milan for two nights.
Open for the Clash in Milan: the word from the support Not Moving
On February 28, 1984 (leap year, for the record) Joe Strummer with what remains of the Clash makes a stop in Italy. It is not the first time in our country for the band, which has already held some concerts in 1980 and 1981 for Italian fans.
That Milanese date sees the presence of a guest group to open the evening: Not Moving, an emerging band that had already attracted the attention of many professionals and enthusiasts. Their sound is peculiar, it hangs up to the mood of bands like Cramps and Gun Club, with many references to punk, but also to the sound of Australian rock and to more roots-blues atmospheres. PDF
More on Not Moving and the Palasport gigs...
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We Are The Clash: Reagan, Thatcher, and the Last Stand of a Band That Mattered
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Joe Strummer Interview Radio Stockholm,
1 January1984
Joe Strummer Interview Ltd Edition picture disk
Interview with Joe Strummer and The Clash in Norway in 1984.
The Clash - Italy 1984 interview
Mister Fantasy - Italian TV - RaiUno
Broadcast 22 March
Joe Strummer of The Clash interviewed backstage pre show Milan Italy 1984. Taken from "Mister Fantasy. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
Clash - 1984 Milan Italy News Show interview
Joe Strummer and The Clash interviewed pre show Milan Italy February 1984. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
The Clash - "Jt. 13th" Interview (France) '84
Made from a second generation VHS-tape.
A longer version (below) is on Youtube but it is inaccesssible from the UK?
Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?
This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.
In the second part of the interview, recorded in the beginning of 1984, Strummer sounds melancholy and exhausted. However, with the departure of Mick Jones from The Clash being old news by this point, Lisa Robinson is able to steer the questioning towards what Strummer makes of performing, success, and his music.
Part 1
00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
01:15 Bitterness
01:56 Success vs. personal problems
02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
11:39 Hoping to be possessed
12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
14:55 Pete Howard on drums
15:07 Recording a new album
15:49 The US Festival
16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response
Part 2
00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
01:57 A feeling of homelessness
02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
07:13 The ideal performing situation
07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
10:48 [A false start]
11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
12:11 Musical influences
12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.
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