Out of Control Tour
Supported by The Scabs
updated 5 Jan 2010 - added punters comments
updated 2 Sept 2016 with better audio information
Audio 1 - -
Sound 3 - 1hr 34min - low? - 30 tracks
This is England
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photos below courtesy of Joerg Bruekner
photo courtesy of Joerg Bruekner
The 21th of february 1984 was one of the finest days of my life, on that day I travelled from Den Hague in Holland by train to the Brielpoort in Deinze in Belgium to see the Clash.
It was a very cold and sunny day and at four o clock we arrived at the Brielpoort which lay nearly a great river. The security controlled every Clash fan with a camera or tape recorder with them and if they discovered it you must gave it to them till after the concert was finished.
On the outside of the Hall Belgium Clash fans hold a protest against The Clash and gave the fans flyers with the message '" Joe Strummer sold out the Clash and turned rebellion into money"". Afcourse we did not like the flyers.
Somehow I was lucky to get a camera inside.
The gig was in a large Hall and I remember that nearly everybody frontstage was drunk and that on stage where The Clash started to play was filled with a lot of TV's
The Scabs a Belgium band opened before the Clash. From the first beginning when the Clash started to play the band got a very good response from the public which came from Holland, Belgium, England, Germany and Italy. Nearly everybody fronststage started to dance and to pogo.
I can remember that the clash sounded very fresh and the band was in a good shape. The setlist of songs was a mix of Clash classics like Londen Calling and Guns of Brixton and a lot of new songs like Dictator, Three Card Trick and This Is England which ware received by the Clash fans very well. After nearly two hours and several gifts the band was finished and left the stage.
After the gig I got the setlist part One from a Clash roady and on the setlist you could read 23 songs but they played 33 songs, there was a second setlist a small one filled with the second and third gift but I did not get that one.
After the gig Marcel my Clash friend and me walked away in the cold outside and forgot to buy the Out of Control 84 Tour shirts but I got the Tour poster which I picked up from the wall and I still got it with the setlist and gigticket.
After that we fell asleep in a cafe which belongs to the local Deinze sport football club where they played the Clash the whole night till we left at eight o clock in the morning and get by train at home the same morning.
In september 2001 I got a very good tape from a dutch journalist who legally taped the first 90 minutes and 29 songs and the sound quality was very good because he held the tape under excellent conditions at his home. He said to me to felt sorry because he could not tape the whole concert because he did not expect that the band played longs than 90 minutes.
The Setlist on your website is from mine and the photo's after the setlist, photonumber 1 - 6 - 8 - 9 - 14 the photo's which got the brightest light are also from mine and I think Jorge Bruekner got them from me or Marcel in the eighties when we wrote a lot with English clash fans.
Peter Pakvis peterpakvis[a]hetnet.nl
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There are several sights that provide setlists but most mirror www.blackmarketclash.co.uk. They are worth checking.
from Setlist FM (cannot be relied on)
from Songkick (cannot be relied on)
... both have lists of people who say they went
& from the newer Concert Database
Also useful: Ultimate Music datbase, All Music, Clash books at DISCOGS
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Joe Strummer Interview Radio Stockholm,
1 January1984
Joe Strummer Interview Ltd Edition picture disk
Interview with Joe Strummer and The Clash in Norway in 1984.
The Clash - Italy 1984 interview
Mister Fantasy - Italian TV - RaiUno
Broadcast 22 March
Joe Strummer of The Clash interviewed backstage pre show Milan Italy 1984. Taken from "Mister Fantasy. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
Clash - 1984 Milan Italy News Show interview
Joe Strummer and The Clash interviewed pre show Milan Italy February 1984. This is a very rare item. I had previously uploaded this a few years ago, but there was an audio fault and it always annoyed me, so I deleted the older version and uploaded this new one with the audio sorted. Taken from BASF L-750 Betamax tape archive number #080 digital archive #4018
The Clash - "Jt. 13th" Interview (France) '84
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A longer version (below) is on Youtube but it is inaccesssible from the UK?
Joe Strummer interviewed by Lisa Robinson for WNYC?
This 2-part interview presents polar extremes of Joe Strummer. The first part most likely takes place in late 1983, after Mick Jones left the band but before the new Clash line-up started touring together. The majority of this segment involves Strummer heatedly discussing all the reasons Jones was fired. He then goes on to talk animatedly about the new incarnation of the band and how everyone in America is on drugs.
In the second part of the interview, recorded in the beginning of 1984, Strummer sounds melancholy and exhausted. However, with the departure of Mick Jones from The Clash being old news by this point, Lisa Robinson is able to steer the questioning towards what Strummer makes of performing, success, and his music.
Part 1
00:00 Why Mick was fired: emotional blackmail
01:15 Bitterness
01:56 Success vs. personal problems
02:48 Mick's vision for the band / guitar synth
03:59 Who/what constitutes The Clash
06:10 Making a not-so-great Clash album: Combat Rock
07:05 Glyn Johns saves Combat Rock (as per Joe Strummer)
07:55 Glyn Johns ruins Combat Rock (as per Mick Jones)
08:35 Forcing Mick Jones to sing "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"
10:22 An honorable way for a band to go out
11:00 The two new guitarists (Vince White, Nick Sheppard)
11:39 Hoping to be possessed
12:40 A divorced writing partnership with Mick / "Death is a Star"
14:02 Writing with Paul Simonon / road-testing new songs
14:55 Pete Howard on drums
15:07 Recording a new album
15:49 The US Festival
16:46 Everybody in America is on drugs
18:29 [phone]: Mick Jones' response
Part 2
00:00 Other aspirations / graphic artist
00:51 Growing up with a diplomat father
01:57 A feeling of homelessness
02:29 Slagged for being middle-class
02:59 The reaction in Britain to the disbanding of The Clash
03:45 Taking some criticisms to heart
04:25 Not enjoying playing in stadiums
05:45 Crowd behavior / whose fault
07:13 The ideal performing situation
07:49 Pros and cons for The Clash getting bigger
08:30 Avoiding the problems of The Who
09:09 The commercial success of Combat Rock
10:48 [A false start]
11:07 Joe's opinion of The Clash's music
12:11 Musical influences
12:45 The blues boom of the 60's in Britain
15:05 Re-selling R&B to the U.S.
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